55hp monk is going to be a history? - Guild Wars Forums

youremorebeautiful · Feb 11, 2006, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Hi. I'm so sorry if this is the wrong place to put my question so feel free to remove or move this question. I am sorry too if my grammar & spelling is bad. I am from France (my english is a little bit not that so good). I just want to ask if any of you think that they will remove the 55hp monk build in game?. Well, I know that we don't need all that flashy armors/weapons/etc. but as you go further to the game you get interested to those flashy stuff. I just dont want to invest so much to my monk. ( btw, this question is for GW Factions since they will re-balance some skills.)

Studio Ghibli · Feb 11, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34

While I'm not a fan of the 55 monk build, I hope Anet DOES NOT REMOVE IT.

I'm not a big supporter of "Hey, play my game--but, oh, you can't play it like that, or that way either! No, not that way either!" I'm still bitter about enchantments being nerfed with the introduction of heavy enchantment-removal monsters. Any nerf targetting a 55hp monk build would be far-reaching, ??ause y??u'd have to weaken so many spells.

EternalTempest · Feb 11, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17

They could get rid of the -50 focus item and not touch the skills

but anet has nothing against farming, as long as it's within balance of the game.

But if they think it's out of balance, it gets "tweaked" not nefred.

hobbitshd · Feb 11, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26

i agree with studio. i not only have a 55 monk, i have a 55 necro that i love to play and as said above, if someone figured out an ingenious build that is within the parameters of the game (meaning not a bot or something), then why should it be removed?

bilbo

Divinus Stella · Feb 11, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Well, 55 monks arent the only way of farming, every area has a few different builds for different professions, the 55monk is just popular because its the easiest, can be fast in certain areas and is imporved by DP.

There are w/x builds for nearly all popular mo/w areas, if they got rid of mo/w farming builds then you would just see a migration to w/x and the game is full enough of those already, its also near impossible to nerf warrior farming builds as they all use different skills.

If anet are to limit farming in chapter 2 itll be by stopping animals swarming around, or by making them more intelligent, use of self healing screws mo/w, and having armour ignoring damage takes care of most other builds.

RotteN · Feb 11, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53

and what exactly would they nerf about protective spirit to not ruin it's function in regular pvp ? do you honestly think anet would make prot spirit less efficient to "nerf" farmers, and with that, give every single spike build out there a serious advantage by ruining the only decent protection against it ?

=HT=Ingram · Feb 11, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

yea what they were going to do to the 55 build they already did.. meaning nerfing AoE and Agro Mobs and the OLD Protective Bond being -2 (or -1) energy instead of the current -3 ... Whats left to nerf. only the -50 health item... but there is also a -30 health item. same thing... Naw I doubt they will nerf it any further. It is just not needed... Its already been nerfed to death...

I don't use it often anymore, except for occasional runs of the sorrows. with a 5 man bond / 55 tanking team... The old Nerfed Protective Bond actually works again if you do it JUST right... I did it recently just to prove to myself it was possible... thing of beauty that, seeing a 55 monk with 18 enchantments on him... Course as we all know a good mes tears that to shreds... but it was just fun to see done...

demon dantes · Feb 11, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15

Imo the only thing they could do to the 55monk is tweek were u could farm with a 55. as far as nerfing it alltogether what till factions u r going to see tons of nerfs after the first 3 months when ppl start combining there builds with the assasin but till then 55 monk = easy farm

Emu · Feb 11, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31

It depends on how you define nerf. The made the new tombs to be as hostile a place for a 55 monk as I could imagine.

Age · Feb 11, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

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Originally Posted by demon dantes

Imo the only thing they could do to the 55monk is tweek were u could farm with a 55. as far as nerfing it alltogether what till factions u r going to see tons of nerfs after the first 3 months when ppl start combining there builds with the assasin but till then 55 monk = easy farm

This is what I was going to say as you will probably see solo Assassin builds.I don't think this will be history in chapter 2 as would runner and any other solo build.

ratatass · Feb 12, 2006, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Yeah,
It is so expensive to get the runes anyways and the focus. So no nerf needed.

Ratatass

Manic Smile · Feb 12, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46

Protective Spirit = target OTHER ally

gg 55....(welcome to the age of dual 55 maybe, much more annoying)

Feb 11, 2006, 03:27 PM // 15:27	#1
youremorebeautiful Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Final Sanctuary Profession: Mo/W	55hp monk is going to be a history? Hi. I'm so sorry if this is the wrong place to put my question so feel free to remove or move this question. I am sorry too if my grammar & spelling is bad. I am from France (my english is a little bit not that so good). I just want to ask if any of you think that they will remove the 55hp monk build in game?. Well, I know that we don't need all that flashy armors/weapons/etc. but as you go further to the game you get interested to those flashy stuff. I just dont want to invest so much to my monk. ( btw, this question is for GW Factions since they will re-balance some skills.)

Feb 11, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34	#2
Studio Ghibli Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Gaelic Storm	While I'm not a fan of the 55 monk build, I hope Anet DOES NOT REMOVE IT. I'm not a big supporter of "Hey, play my game--but, oh, you can't play it like that, or that way either! No, not that way either!" I'm still bitter about enchantments being nerfed with the introduction of heavy enchantment-removal monsters. Any nerf targetting a 55hp monk build would be far-reaching, ??ause y??u'd have to weaken so many spells.

Feb 11, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17	#3
EternalTempest Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: United States Guild: Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM] Profession: E/	They could get rid of the -50 focus item and not touch the skills but anet has nothing against farming, as long as it's within balance of the game. But if they think it's out of balance, it gets "tweaked" not nefred.

Feb 11, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#4
hobbitshd Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida Guild: Vandal Hearts [VH] Profession: R/Mo	i agree with studio. i not only have a 55 monk, i have a 55 necro that i love to play and as said above, if someone figured out an ingenious build that is within the parameters of the game (meaning not a bot or something), then why should it be removed? bilbo

Feb 11, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30	#5
Divinus Stella Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wales Guild: Steel Phoenix	Well, 55 monks arent the only way of farming, every area has a few different builds for different professions, the 55monk is just popular because its the easiest, can be fast in certain areas and is imporved by DP. There are w/x builds for nearly all popular mo/w areas, if they got rid of mo/w farming builds then you would just see a migration to w/x and the game is full enough of those already, its also near impossible to nerf warrior farming builds as they all use different skills. If anet are to limit farming in chapter 2 itll be by stopping animals swarming around, or by making them more intelligent, use of self healing screws mo/w, and having armour ignoring damage takes care of most other builds.

Feb 11, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53	#6
RotteN Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/	and what exactly would they nerf about protective spirit to not ruin it's function in regular pvp ? do you honestly think anet would make prot spirit less efficient to "nerf" farmers, and with that, give every single spike build out there a serious advantage by ruining the only decent protection against it ?

Feb 11, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06	#7
=HT=Ingram Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Anchorage Alaska Guild: Haz Team [HT] Profession: R/W	yea what they were going to do to the 55 build they already did.. meaning nerfing AoE and Agro Mobs and the OLD Protective Bond being -2 (or -1) energy instead of the current -3 ... Whats left to nerf. only the -50 health item... but there is also a -30 health item. same thing... Naw I doubt they will nerf it any further. It is just not needed... Its already been nerfed to death... I don't use it often anymore, except for occasional runs of the sorrows. with a 5 man bond / 55 tanking team... The old Nerfed Protective Bond actually works again if you do it JUST right... I did it recently just to prove to myself it was possible... thing of beauty that, seeing a 55 monk with 18 enchantments on him... Course as we all know a good mes tears that to shreds... but it was just fun to see done...

Feb 11, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15	#8
demon dantes Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ny Guild: Iyanden Wraithguard Profession: Mo/Me	Imo the only thing they could do to the 55monk is tweek were u could farm with a 55. as far as nerfing it alltogether what till factions u r going to see tons of nerfs after the first 3 months when ppl start combining there builds with the assasin but till then 55 monk = easy farm

Feb 11, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31	#9
Emu Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Riddle Of Kings Profession: Mo/	It depends on how you define nerf. The made the new tombs to be as hostile a place for a 55 monk as I could imagine.

Feb 12, 2006, 12:00 AM // 00:00	#11
ratatass Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Mexico	Yeah, It is so expensive to get the runes anyways and the focus. So no nerf needed. Ratatass

Feb 12, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46	#12
Manic Smile Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Guild: ----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----	Protective Spirit = target OTHER ally gg 55....(welcome to the age of dual 55 maybe, much more annoying)